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DRIVING IN EUROPE

Post by Emma Jackman » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:24 am

I was just searching for what European breakdown cover I used for Kempenrit 2007, on the old forum and spotted the following. Useful reading, thanks for posting this originally Adrian, it'll probably be helpul to post it here.

Also, can anyone recommend European Breakdown Cover, I can't for the life of me work out who I used last time.


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As the summer touring season will be with us soon I would like to offer the following items you need if you plan on taking your pride and joy across to Europe, either on one of our events or on your own.

This list, although fairly comprehensive, may be superseded by personal experience or knowledge, please add to it if you have anything of value.

The European E111 medical form is now superseeded by the European Health Insurance card.

You should inform your insurance company, although green cards are no longer necessary.

GB sticker, the car should have one visible from the N/S rear unless the car has the "new" Euro plates with the twelve stars, then it should be displayed on the plate.

Your driving licence, both parts, paper and photocard.

The cars V5 document.

Your insurance certificate.

Your passport.

Written permission to drive from the car's owner if it is not registered in your name.

Headlamp converters, although, in practice, I have never been challenged, I haven't used them since the French stopped using amber headlamps in the 80's.

A warning triangle (all countries), two in Spain for Spanish cars, but it is recommended to take a second to avoid any confusion.

Lastly a few recommendations and advisories, with country based deviations :

Carry a fire extinguisher, this is compulsory in Austria and Belgium.

Carry a spare set of bulbs, compulsory in Spain.

Carry a first aid kit. This is compulsory in Germany and Belgium.

Use your headlamps in poor conditions and low visibility.

Your headlamps must be on all the time in Scandinavian countries and Switzerland.

The Insurance green card is not required but tell your insurance company the countries you are visiting.

On the spot fines, for traffic violations are widely used, make sure you get a written receipt from the officer.

Hi visibility vests are widely becoming a requirement, this is law in Italy, Austria and Spain and is being adopted by others. In Spain for example, you have to have one for every person in the car and they have to be carried in the car, not in the boot, in other countries you are not allowed to walk on the motorway, or behind a warning triangle unless wearing one.

If you wear glasses, you will need to carry a spare pair in Spain and Switzerland.

In France your licence can be confiscated on the spot if you are caught driving 25 kph over the speed limit.

You will require a vignette to drive in Switzerland and Austria, a temporary permit to use the motorways, they are available from post offices, petrol stations near the border, also the Swiss Centre in London.

The sounding of horns is officially banned in built up ares of Italy (really ??)

When overtaking at night in Luxembourg you should flash your headlights and visitors to the same country are restricted to a speed of 75kph if you have held your licence for less than two years.

Be aware of differing speed limits, thay range from 95 kph in Norway, usually it is 120 kph, some three lane motorways in Italy are 150 kph and there are unrestricted autobahns in Germany. Limits vary due to weather conditions also.

Finally, a warning, the alcohol limits are much lower than in our country, be aware.
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Post by Geoff.F » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:08 am

Yiu do not need your lights on all the time in Switzerland but only when in tunnels, albeit there are some looong tunnels.
The best site for European travel advice is http://www.theaa.com who also probably have the best Breakdown Insurance BUT they require that your car has been serviced to the manufaturer's requirements by an Approved garage. viz. A Full Service History which is becoming very rare with Enthusiasts cars.
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Post by colintf » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:02 pm

I have European RAC cover Em, the TF and ZS alos have free European breakdown cover with insurance via Footman James.

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Post by Dieter K » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:02 pm

Lots of (err... apology ).. rubbish and *heard of* and missing items from who ever wrote that. :lol:

sample
--> Carry a fire extinguisher, this is compulsory in Austria and Belgium. ?? <<--
May be for trucks but not for cars ;)

Would recommend to follow Geoff's hint on the AA site.
Each country to visit has it's own pdf instruction leavelet linked.

direct http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/ov ... index.html
easy access
France
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/to ... Monaco.pdf
Austria
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/to ... ustria.pdf
Belgium
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/to ... elgium.pdf
Germany
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/to ... ermany.pdf
Switzerland
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/to ... nstein.pdf
:roll:

happy motoring.

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PS... bear in mind 2009 http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/to ... Norway.pdf
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Post by adrianclifford » Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:20 pm

Dieter, that list, now two years old, actually came form the AA.

Time to update it I think !
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Post by Dieter K » Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:39 pm

adrianclifford wrote:Dieter, that list, now two years old, actually came form the AA.

Time to update it I think !
I understand. That's why I prefer direct informations from the writer. :sf: :roll:
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Post by Reckless Rat » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:26 pm

With effect from 1st July everyone in France MUST carry a reflective vest and a warning triangle, AND use them in the event of a breakdown.

Having said all that, apparently you can't buy them anywhere for love nor money as all stocks have been sold out. (in France that is)

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Post by Geoff.F » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:48 pm

Reckless Rat wrote:With effect from 1st July everyone in France MUST carry a reflective vest and a warning triangle, AND use them in the event of a breakdown.

Having said all that, apparently you can't buy them anywhere for love nor money as all stocks have been sold out. (in France that is)
Update from AA is that this date has slipped to 1st October for French Registered cars with no confirmation that it applies to visitors.
but then we all carry them as a matter of course.
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Post by Emma Jackman » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:01 pm

http://www.vehicle-rescue.com/european- ... nefits.php

What do you think guys? Cheapest I can find, not heard of the company but they do everything we need and associated with AXA.
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Post by Dieter K » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:06 pm

Emma,
did you also speak with your current car insurer ?
May be they offer a similar, but cheaper amendment of the car insurance.
so called "rider" (spelling ?)

Such amendments are familar here in DE and an alternative to the ADAC recovery (ADAC is like AA)
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Post by Neil Rushton » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:06 pm

Try http://www.quotelinedirect.co.uk that who we've gone with for the Kempenrit/Zug trip, covered by Europ Assistance.
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Post by himself » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:06 am

just noticed this post.

i was paying about £150 :x . for rac cover and the another £140 :o to take the car to europe for the anual 'ring trip and quite frankly after 14 years with the rac and being told that only new joins qualified for a discount i deciced that it was time to part :thumbsd: .
so my requirements were:

home start

relay

full cover in europe, bring the car home no matter what, at no extra cost..

all at reasonable membership cost.


79 euros...yes 79 euros supported by one of the biggest recovery companies in europe and a saving of appx £235.00 per year.

paid by credit card.on monday> reciept by post wednesday>card at my home thursday a.m.

many on the 'ringers forum have been using them for years.

who??



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Post by Kasper » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:08 pm

just checked the Swiss list: one item is missing :(

It is prohibited to have Gatso locations on your navigation system in Swiss. Police is allowed to take your tomtom and you will be fined as well. Our ANWB (Dutch AA) warned me today while selling me the Swiss and Austrian vignettes)

(I think I'll have a separate memory card for the cards with Gatso locations).
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Post by colintf » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:13 pm

thanks for the tip Kasper!

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Post by adrianclifford » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:31 pm

I'm not going to take mine out. I'll leave it in the boot while in Switzerland.

A few years ago, the French police were fining UK drivers for having speed detectors in their cars, but that seems to have died out now, so I believe.
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Post by Geoff.F » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:04 pm

Last Monday's ITV Tonight programme was 'A look at the penalties for breaking European driving laws'.
Yes, the French Police are still hot on Radar Detectors.
Switzerland is more strict. Customs may search your car if you have a suction pad ring on your windscreen. It is illegal to have one, let alone use it.
Best recommendation is to leave them at home.
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Post by Kasper » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:40 pm

adrianclifford wrote:I'm not going to take mine out. I'll leave it in the boot while in Switzerland.

A few years ago, the French police were fining UK drivers for having speed detectors in their cars, but that seems to have died out now, so I believe.
There are two approaches:
1- radar detectors, that detects the radar gun of the police in case you'll run into a trap. They are prohibited in Holland as well.
2- files with the locations of Gatso's. These are purely based on an existing downloadable file. containing coordinates of gatso cameras (no portable radar detectors)

As the second data base is only an extended memory (in your area you know where to find the Gatso's) they are allowed in most countries, except for Swiss.

I'm realy sorry Gatso is a Dutch invention, Maus Gatsodoninus only intended to measure his top speed on the Zandvoort circuit. a good tool for that, Maus invention is only abused the government :twisted:

In Holland we have mobile detection crews that are able to check for radar detectors.
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Post by Reckless Rat » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:09 am

The law in France about reflective vests & warning triangles came in to effect on 1st July. However, the gendarmerie have been instructed not to issue prosecutions until October. It doesn't mean that you don't have to carry, wear & use them, only that you'll not get 'done' if you get a stop-check and you're not suirtably equipped. Given the poor safety record of most European countries you'd be well advised to use them anyway.

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Post by Geoff.F » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:27 am

Reckless Rat wrote:The law in France about reflective vests & warning triangles came in to effect on 1st July. However, the gendarmerie have been instructed not to issue prosecutions until October. It doesn't mean that you don't have to carry, wear & use them, only that you'll not get 'done' if you get a stop-check and you're not suirtably equipped. Given the poor safety record of most European countries you'd be well advised to use them anyway.
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/ov ... index.html dated 18th July.

Then it is Euros 90 to 135.

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Post by Kasper » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:27 am

adrianclifford wrote:I'm not going to take mine out. I'll leave it in the boot while in Switzerland.

A few years ago, the French police were fining UK drivers for having speed detectors in their cars, but that seems to have died out now, so I believe.

Simply do not download the location files for Swiss from the TomTom site or any POI site. That should do according to Tom Tom.
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