Claimed factory (?) MGF rally car.

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Claimed factory (?) MGF rally car.

Post by David Dixon » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:03 pm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGF-RALLY-CAR ... 419902d9db
This on ebay, derelict, don't know it's authenticity could be interesting MGF, nothing to do with me.

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Post by colintf » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:08 pm

I know of a works rally MGF but it's on uk plates R***WOM

This one was registered overseas?


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Post by mgfsoldier » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:03 pm

Shame it's just a shell and some books really. I guess Mike Satur would be the people to talk to looking at the shell.

Thinking about the ebay name I think someone bought from them.and the paypal payment went to mike satur

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Post by talkingcars » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:42 pm

IIRC Rimmers had some shells at £995.
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Post by Rob Bell » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:11 am

Wow. I actually like this car quite a lot (probably because I am mad). BUT if this really is a genuine rally car, it would be a shame to lose it.

I am very interested in the build documents for the MGF Trophy. The MGF Trophy was for circuit racing rather than rallying - which is odd, but these documents are like "Hen's teeth" these days and are worth obtaining/ keeping/ preserving. You even get a build manual for the VHPD engine!

The size of this job looks similar to what I have had to do with Project Shed: it is quite a significant project. If a genuine motorsport car, replacing the body shell would be akin to Trigger's broom, and its integrity would be lost.

It is also a shame that so much of the original motorsport components have been lost; to replace them would be a considerable undertaking.

What we are looking at here is a labour of love by someone with time, money and quite a but of space!!

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Post by Rob Bell » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:22 am

I've just emailed the seller to provide more provenance for the car (and to see whether I can get a copy of the build manuals!)

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Post by Bigfootmgf » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:23 am

Very interesting if its real
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Post by Rob Bell » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:06 pm

Agreed! I have also dropped Mike Satur an email about this car: it has both his livery and his F-ONE body kit panels fitted to it, so hopefully he can shed some light on this, er, shed. It's not too far from his Yorkshire base either...

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Post by diesel destroyer » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:03 pm

Shock mounts not beefed up? :o

Looks more like a stock F that's had a body kit fitted.. then ripped off.. and some stickers applied..

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Post by Rob Bell » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:30 pm

It is a genuine car. I have now spoken to both Paul (the eBay vendor) and Mike Satur (who the car belongs to) and can confirm that it is indeed a French series Rally Car that Mike used to rally.

Although it comes with MGF Cup build manuals, it hasn't been prepared to MGF Cup specification - but then the rally cars never were, so this is a bit of a red herring.

I suspect that "what you see is what you get" - and if old competition cars are of interest to you, then this is a bone fide car - albeit in many pieces and a very major project!

Actually, if I were starting from scratch with Project Shed, this would have made an interesting starting point! :)

If I get any more information I'll let you know.

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Post by mgfsoldier » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:51 pm

Shame it's so far gone. Did you find out if there was any differences (suspension etc) coming with it or just the cage.

A Rally MGF is definitely an interesting proposition.

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Post by Rob Bell » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:36 pm

Tony, both subframes and gearbox are with this car. I haven't had much more detail, but could arrange a visit to investigate further... Fancy a trip "oop north"? ;)

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Post by mgfsoldier » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:48 pm

If only I had the time Rob. Unfortunately with having 2 MGs, a Rally team to look after and a day job and uni, I can't find time to get my TF through the MOT let alone think about another project (as cheap as it may potentially be) it would certainly bee an interesting project if images of the complete car could be located so the body kit could be produced for it.

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Post by nismo » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:30 pm

Rob Bell wrote:Tony, both subframes and gearbox are with this car. I haven't had much more detail, but could arrange a visit to investigate further... Fancy a trip "oop north"? ;)


Sounds right up your street this one Rob, look forward to further instalments don't forget to take some nice fresh black pudding back if you come :thumbsu:
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Post by Rob Bell » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:45 pm

I am tempted - but this one would be even more work than the Shed: at least the shell was completely straight and unmolested! This car comes with a spare body shell - but that would be too easy.

I am currently in a "no-space and no-time" scenario. If I did get it, I would probably have to store it in a barn for the next 10 years before getting round to rebuilding it!!! :oops:

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Post by nismo » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:32 pm

^It is a wise man that avoids asking himself sometime further down the line, that age old question we have all asked ourselves at one time or another.....

Why the f### did I do that?? ;)
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Post by colintf » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:09 pm

Rob Bell wrote:It is a genuine car. I have now spoken to both Paul (the eBay vendor) and Mike Satur (who the car belongs to) and can confirm that it is indeed a French series Rally Car that Mike used to rally.

Although it comes with MGF Cup build manuals, it hasn't been prepared to MGF Cup specification - but then the rally cars never were, so this is a bit of a red herring.

I suspect that "what you see is what you get" - and if old competition cars are of interest to you, then this is a bone fide car - albeit in many pieces and a very major project!

Actually, if I were starting from scratch with Project Shed, this would have made an interesting starting point! :)

If I get any more information I'll let you know.
Good detective work Rob :thumbsu:

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In reply to Nismo's statement, it is not just men who ask the question but women!! My darling wife still asks 5 years on "Why the f@@k did i ask him to marry me!" No it wasnt a leap year just a senior moment years in advamce. If anybody has the answer the way women think then they are a wiser man or woman than me!!! I said yes.......dumb or what?

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