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MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:47 pm

Hi everyone,

This story goes back to 2014 But I can't see a better way to start!

Well some of you may know the story, others may have heard about it and most won’t know anything…
I am Sergi and I am from Spain and as you may guess I like BMW but I also like MG’s.
I used to have a Tahiti Blue TF 160, I enjoyed it so much while I was living in Belfast, I learned how to use a spanner with him and therefore I did some improvements, like a Daytona exhaust, TF LE500 front bumper, fully electric Recaro seats, Mike Satur roll hoops, VHS Bilstein suspension and quite a few extra bits & bobs.
Here is a pic… of my greatly missed TF “Sonic”
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My wife & me were very happy in Northern Ireland but we had the opportunity to move back to Madrid Spain and start our own business so we jumped on it.
Unfortunately, my TF was a RHD, and at that point I did had invested too much money in parts and became so attached to the car that I could not see it go for peanuts (2000GBP or less), I contacted a “MG F/TF Specialist” company to convert it to LHD among with other improvements. Long story short… they did an awful job and ended up in court, awarding me some money back.
So I got a complete wreck of a TF (Some members like Rob Bell or Andy Watson did see the poor thing in the flesh) and a huge lot of nice parts!!
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Until yesterday!

After so many sleepless nights dreaming with my ideal TF I could not let it go that easily, so I knew that despite of all the inconvenience and the financial loss, I would eventually get behind the wheel of a TF again.
I started the hunt of a good one after my last trip to the UK. In Spain the TF is such a rare car (Less than 15 for sale in the whole country) and I knew I wanted a Spanish registered one for three reasons:
-Avoiding Import taxes
-Lack of corrosion
-LHD

So after seeing 3 of them I found this one… Only two owners, 45458Kms in the clock (28247miles) full service history and all the right maintenance done by a MG Rover garage. Not in my preferred colour combination (Ideally Red) but I had the feeling that it was my car when I saw this in the garage where the car was stored..
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In fact the car was from the owner of the garage, an ex official MGR Dealer and part of Xpart associated garages.


It’s a 2004 MG TF 135 in Pearl Black with tan interior. It is in fantastic condition but let’s the pictures speak for themselves
The car
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The good bits:
-PBT Hard top
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-Tan Tonneau cover
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-Windstop
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-Low miles
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The underneath of a Spanish car :devil: :devil:
Coolant pipes
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Engine mount & rear subframe

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Suspension

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Subframe mounts

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Tools

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Although it has some minor bad bits…
-Cracked rear light
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-Poor front wing adjustment (Not from an accident but from a repaint) The previous owner had it resprayed as the paint was starting to show it’s age)
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-No fog lights
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-Tiny brakes & wheels
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-Horrendous TF 160 badge (It’s not a 160… yet)
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If you have read it everything I may even have a future as a magazine writer… lol
I want to say a massive thanks to a bunch of good friends made along the way from the MG Community to name a few Andy & Alex Watson, Amanda, Sandra, Kamaleon, Quickspider, Lee123, Rob Bell, Fast Jan, Mike, Chris and many others that had helped me in one way or another, thanks to all the support received during this time… and especially to my big brother Allan AKA Diesel Destroyer. He has gone beyond boundaries for me and I will never forget it.

Looking forward to show you my new car in future meetings!!

Happy MGing!!

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Get Ready for part II

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by colintf » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:03 pm

Great story! Many thanks for sharing the story with us :thumbsu:

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:28 pm

This is the modification process or project list as you want to name it

Well It´s going to be long...

Exterior
-LE 500 front bumber
-Seat Leon cupra Splitter
-Retrofitted front fog lights
-Black MG 90mm front logo
-Gloss Black grille kit
-Small aerial
-Citroen Xsara washer jets
-16” 11 Spoke wheels in white (To get refurbished in shadow chrome)
-16" Ultra light wheels
-Mike Satur Mk IV roll hoops
-Grenadine soft top with glass screen
-Anthracite Vintage Racing stripes
-6000k Xenon headlights
-Air scoops
-Gloss black Grille in boot

Interior

-Inox handbrake button
-Mike Satur MG TF pedals
-Mike Satur alu heater controls
-Recaro Pole Position bucket seats
-Grenadine interior
-Refurbed leather steering wheel with red stitching
-Anti lock hood straps
-Red Seatbelts
-New carpet from Newtoncomm (To be fitted)
-Rear lamp covers
-Mike satur alu knob
-Momo Air leather Knob (Summer)
-Handbrake leather with red stitching
-LE 500 interior console
-Pearl black door inserts and heating panels (To be done)
-Alu door lock pins
-Remote boot opening
-Alu seatbelts insert
-SAIC Cluster to work on 2002 car (Not finished)

Engine & Gearbox

Now things get really funny!
The engine was supposed to be the one from my previous TF wich had had the following:
-Hellier ported head
-Culata modificada por Hellier
-Piper 270 VVC Camshaft
-Newman VVC inlet Camshaft
-New Oil & Petrol filters & Castrol 10W/40
-Vibratechnics engine support kit
-Pipercross Viper CAI Kit
-New Cambelt & alternator belt
-Magnecor HP leads
-New Spark plugs
-Elise parts Oil pump
-Magnetic sump plug
-ECU Remap
-New water pump
-New tensioner
-MLS head gasket
-Sump Baffle
-Oil ladder
-Stainless Steel coolant pipes
-New alternator
-Blue Roose motorsport silicon hoses (Full kit)
-Timing Dowels
-All new engine gaskets
-Balanced bottom end
-Custom Rocker cover
-Close Ratio BP4 Gearbox Rebuild with Quaife LSD and tapered bearings by Quickspider (Thanks Jon!)
-Lightweight EN24 Flywheel
-Mike Satur Clutch arm
-AP Racing fast road clutch
-Mike Satur MKIV Slick Shift kit
-New Master & Slave cylinders
-New oil & Gaskets
That was the original plan but when I got it in the car we realised that the crank had a problem and it was leaking badly, so in the meantime I got a spare VVC 160 Engine from MGFnTF Bitz (Thanks Jill & Darren) ;) and fitted it to enjoy the car while I decided what to do with my bottom end (I was thinking just to fit the head and cams and get the remap) But sometimes life has other plans so when I got the chance to buy Diesel Destroyer engine I jumped in it!!
Here is the spec of Allan's Engine with my add ons (I want to keep the BP4 Gearbox)

-VVC head, ported, polished, gas flowed converted to NON VVC with piper cams kit
-633 exhaust cam
-Custom made 633 inlet cam (solid)
-Ferriday 7mm thermal inlet gasket
-Ferriday 5mm thermal exhaust gasket
-Titan ITBs
-Pipercross ITB air box and cone filter
-100mm silicone hose for air box
-Oil catch tank and silicone hose for crank case breather
-395mm Mocal Laminova cooler and braided oil lines and custom made silicone hoses
-Full Roose motorsport silicone hose set including 3 under dash hoses (whole car set)
-Custom made aluminum hose joiners
-Custom made aluminum rad triple core race spec and high CFM fans
-Emerald ECU, comms lead and map switch
-Tech edge wide band lambda sensor
-Vernier pulleys
-Brand new VVC timing belt and tensioner
-Air con pump fitted to block
-Vibratechnics engine mount set
-Quick spider sump baffles
-1.9 Scholar Evo bottom end and Woosner forged Pistons
-Elise parts uprated water pump
-Fully balanced bottom end
-EN24 fly wheel (balanced)
-AP ultimate street clutch (balanced)
-Bosch 044 fuel pump (set to 4 bar)
-Custom Teflon braided fuel set up (replaces all fuel pipes on the car)
-Custom made fuel rail and cream injectors
-Fuel pressure regulator
-Swirl pot (needed for the fuel set up)
-Custom heat shield
-Wiring loom for engine/ECU
-Engine covers including
-Custom dip stick
-Quaife diff on tapered bearings, steel caged for the rest
-PG1 BP4 gearbox steam cleaned
-Custom cross braced clutch slave bracket, new clutch slave and Lotus race clutch braided hose
-Custom ITB bracket
-Spark plugs and coil packs
-Magnetic Drain plug
-Mike Satur Slick Shift kit
-Mike Satur Daytona exhaust with oval
-Piper 4-2-1 manifold wrapped in titanium
-Janspeed 200 cells cat
-Silicon exhaust hangers
-WASP high torque starter
-High output (120 instead of 70amp) starter motor

Brakes & Suspension

To Stop & control such a mighty engine I needed to drop my attention to the brakes and running gear

-4 Pot AP Racing MG calipers
-EBC Redstuff pads
-DOT 5.1 brake fluid
-Braided hoses
-304mm drilled discs
-VHS 280mm rear brake kit
-Powdercoated red Seamwelded front & rear subframes
-Brand new bolts torqued to OEM Settings
-Brand new TRE, Balljoints front & rear
-New hubs
-Polyurethane bushes where available (Polybush)
-VHS Bilstein Shocks
-X-power Eibach springs
-Laser alingment
-Mike Satur upper suspension arms
-Eibach MG TF 85th Anniversary front & rear anti roll bars
-Adjustable rear camber arms
-Front 85th anniversary arms & drop links


Cooling system

-B&G low coolant alarm modified to fit the cluster
-Stainless steel engine hoses
-PRT 82º
-Under car stainless Steel hoses

Miscellanious

-Under bonnet Stainless steel bolts
-Mike satur wiper linkage modified to LHD
-VAG Style blade key (To sort out)
-Stainless steel rad mounts
-Powder coated red floor pan
-New newton comercial carpet
ICE

-Polk audio MOMO front speakers
-Rear Alpine 4x6 speakers
-Alpine flat subwoofer
-Alpine CDA 137BT Head unit
-Dynamat floor pan and doors

Surely I have forgot something... but that is mainly it...

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:32 pm

Well the first thing before I started was to do some research...
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The truth is that I enjoyed the book quite a lot I learned a great deal and had fun in the process...
The very first mod was to remove the fake TF160 badge as the car at the time was only a 135


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After that I bleed the system(for my own mental health) And I started doing some minor mods

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Before:
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After:
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Some more legal requirements to meet…
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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:43 pm

After that one I wanted to update the exterior of the car...
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What´s in the box? A dead body??? :D

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Fitting is quite simple and it comes with a explanatory video... better that IKEA fitting instructions.. so a total newbie like me with the spanners can fit it
http://www.mgfmania.com


But back to the story
As I am sometimes a little stupid... the day after I fitted the glass screen I drop the top and seeing that it did not sit flat I push it down with this great result...


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:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Learned the hard way and 300 quid poorer the result is this

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Now I always check for the windstop :oops: :oops:

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:23 pm

I enjoyed the car in that OEM form for a year...
Enjoy the pics...
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OOPS!!! I must say that was a closed traffic area hence the pics... :D
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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Beltin145 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:49 pm

A great read that mate :thumbsu: and a lovely car

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Forrester » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:20 pm

Let us know how the engine performs in your car.
Good to hear that some of Alan's parts are being made good use of.

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by talkingcars » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:52 am

Hi and welcome back

DD shared some of the story of the previous car with the mods on www.the-t-bar.com so I have a bit of the background to the story which wasn't good.

I am over to Bilbao in August to stay with my mother in law, trying to persuade my wife we should drive as we need to bring stuff back, if we do I don't mind bringing stuff over.

PBT is a great colour, I have it on my ZS.

James
Home to black Alfa 159 3.2 V6 Q4, blue MGZR160, green MGF VVC and grey MGF 1.8i, and red MG Maestro T16.

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:40 am

After this minor upgrades was time for MAJOR surgery...
So got my bits packed by my good friend Allan and shipped to Spain!
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Meantime in Sunny Spain I got everything ready and took the 135 engine out... and in an MG F!! :thumbsu: My friend Ariel got the engine as part of the payment for most of my upgrades
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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:02 pm

talkingcars wrote:Hi and welcome back

DD shared some of the story of the previous car with the mods on http://www.the-t-bar.com so I have a bit of the background to the story which wasn't good.

I am over to Bilbao in August to stay with my mother in law, trying to persuade my wife we should drive as we need to bring stuff back, if we do I don't mind bringing stuff over.

PBT is a great colour, I have it on my ZS.

James
James thanks for the offer! So far I am fine! Let me know when are you coming as I may try to go to that region a weekend in summer :thumbsu:

Is your wife from Bilbao?

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:16 pm

Some of the goodies in the box...
Mike Satur Slick shift Mk IV
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Mocal oil cooler (Air/oil) to be changed for Allan´s laminova
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Mike Satur clutch arm
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Piper 4-2-1 manifold
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Quaife LSD
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BP4 Gearbox with the Quaife in situ...
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Cat... errr (Not a living one :D :D )
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Red seat belts
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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:19 am

Then we took both subframes for restoration, both subframes are seam welded acid cleaned and shot blasted... here the results:
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Then we powder coated them (They had to be red!!)
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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Rob Bell » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:50 am

Hey Sergio, great to hear some updates, and really happy that at least some of Allan's project car parts have found a deserving home! How are you doing? Looks as though the Project is progressing well? :D :thumbsu:

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:31 pm

Good to hear from you Rob! Yep Allan´s project car heart will beat strong in my car (OR maybe in another one if I find an appropriate shell!!)

Yes the project is going fine... in fact all the jobs are done and I am currently enjoying the car but I did not had time to sort out pictures till now....

Back to the topic.. we used the time the parts were travelling to get ready the car. So we dynamat the whole shell
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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:35 pm

We also used the time to recondition the A/C system

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Here a pic of works in progress

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We made a new brake brackett

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:41 pm

Then the parcel arrived... and within it plenty of shiny bits!!!

So work got interesting...
Brand new hub bearings...

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Messy parts... out of the car

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Polybushes for the arms

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Bilstein shocks with X-Power springs

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Rear Big brakes

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:45 pm

We also realised that we needed plenty of other parts...
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B&G Low coolant alarm

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Clutch arm belt & new master cylinder

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Some bling...

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:58 pm

Then we encountered one of the main problems... the car was a LHD 2004 Pektron fob 1.8 135 engine and the wiring for the enginewas from a 2002 160 Lucas fob RHD car weren't compatibles... so of to the hunt of a complete wiring loom for a LHD 160 (Ideally a Lucas fob) I was lucky enough to locate a 160 in a scrapyard near Murcia... so I booked a weekend in the beach and when I arrived at the scrappy I found that the car had this interior in quite good nick
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I could´t resist so I got the whole grenadine interior with the seats, loom, centre console, front fog lights, ECU and all the clusters for the keys...

It turned out to be an expensive trip but I was a Happy fella!!

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Re: MGTF 160 Project

Post by Sergi Bmw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:02 pm

Things in Madrid were progressing according to plan...

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