Both windows stopped working

[webba]

Help please , I have a 2000 mpi and both windows have stopped working , i have checked all fuses including under the bonnet and swapped the relay ,the electric mirrors which are supposedly on the same fuse still work. I struggle to believe both motors have failed simultaneously. ,the car displays no other faults except my obd reader does not work on it any more . please can somebody help?

[Charless]

If it is the same loom as my '96 mpi there is a third fuse in the circuit which supplies 12v to a relay which feeds both individually fused window lift motors. Have you checked them all in the under dash fuse box?

[Roverlike]

If all fuses are fine, and you swapped relay, I would say it is time to take multimeter and measure power on the fuses.

[webba]

This one is a mems 3 loom and I have checked all fuses but great idea with multi meter i shall give that a go

[Roverlike]

Your car is MY 2000, but with MEMS3 loom? Do you have BCU then instead of 5AS?

[webba]

I don't know how do i check ?

[webba]

the manufacture year is 2000 and it has the mems 3 head thats all I know really I really don't know much about electrics

[Roverlike]

I don't know how do i check ?

If you do not know how to work with multimeter, then you either need to have helping hand from some who do, or you would need auto electrician help.
I would offer help, but I live in Croatia, so I am far away.

[webba]

I can use a multi meter ,its i don't know if the car is BCU or 5AS and how and why it would make a difference to the problem I have

[Roverlike]

Difference is what controls windows and in which way. I would assume that you have 5AS and square fob with two buttons. If so, then what I said to check voltage on fuses and relay when key is in position II.

[webba]

Update , The windows have now started working again for no perceivable reason ,WTF