Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Hi Keith, Rob,
I will now only be having my TF remapped. I was also bringing another unit for remapping but the guy has just pulled out as he needs the cash for other work on the his TF.
Frustrating to be told this at the last minute.
Bill
I will now only be having my TF remapped. I was also bringing another unit for remapping but the guy has just pulled out as he needs the cash for other work on the his TF.
Frustrating to be told this at the last minute.
Bill
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Thanks for the update. Corrected my post.willyphixitt wrote:Hi Keith, Rob,
I will now only be having my TF remapped. I was also bringing another unit for remapping but the guy has just pulled out as he needs the cash for other work on the his TF.
Frustrating to be told this at the last minute.
Bill
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Keith's already answered the question Ian, but essentially no need to contact him before hand, just let Mark know on the day Ian - and pay him directly. We didn't want to collect the money and incur middle-man charges.
Bill, yes, a little frustrating! Ultimately hopefully not a problem
Bill, yes, a little frustrating! Ultimately hopefully not a problem
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Thanks for the clarification - see you all saturday
Ian
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
For all those heading over to Novatech tomorrow (and we still have a round 3 spare places - so if anyone wants to join us, please do feel free), Bernie has given me a heads-up regarding the traffic conditions:
See you all tomorrow!Bernie wrote:Hi Rob
I just want to let your people know that we have had a traffic problem with a lot of visitors going to Legoland in Windsor, this has affected Junc. 6 M4 and Windsor area itself as it is half term it may be a bit busy tomorrow ?.
I have mislaid your tel no .
Kind regards
Bernie Bowden
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
See You all tomorrow I hope to be there as soon as I can but likely to be around 12ish.
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Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Excellent day thanks to Rob for organising. Will post done pics tomorrow.
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Hi Guys,
Really enjoyed today, great to meet friends both old and new and interesting time. Well done to Rob and Andy for pulling this together, also I thought Bernie and Andy where a top pair of guys.
'til next time take care all.
Really enjoyed today, great to meet friends both old and new and interesting time. Well done to Rob and Andy for pulling this together, also I thought Bernie and Andy where a top pair of guys.
'til next time take care all.
Cheers,
Martin
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Had a brilliant time, thanks to everyone
Bernie was a top chap wasn't be? I still need to get Project Shed on the rollers for a baseline before starting any serious tuning, so if anyone wants to have another event do let me know!
Mark was as impressed as the rest of us by the improved head line figures he was getting from his remaps - I'm sure everyone went home happy?
Andy, how was your car on the way home? You got the biggest gain of the day I think!
Bernie was a top chap wasn't be? I still need to get Project Shed on the rollers for a baseline before starting any serious tuning, so if anyone wants to have another event do let me know!
Mark was as impressed as the rest of us by the improved head line figures he was getting from his remaps - I'm sure everyone went home happy?
Andy, how was your car on the way home? You got the biggest gain of the day I think!
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Hi All,
Really good to meet you all yesterday- I had a great time and Bernie's hospitality was first class- well impressed with the whole day and there were some brilliant cars there too!!
I've gotta say I drove home all the way with a massive grin on my face- the difference that the remap made in terms of throttle response and just general drivability was amazing The car even sounds more sporty and the fuel gauge didn't even move (hope it aint broken!)- I reckon probably the best mod along with the bilstein shocks for sheer driving pleasure.
Again, really good to meet you all and I'll be dropping Mark a line over the coming weeks too- initial impressions though are that you've gotta be nuts not to remap if your ecu allows.
Hopefully see ya soon!
Really good to meet you all yesterday- I had a great time and Bernie's hospitality was first class- well impressed with the whole day and there were some brilliant cars there too!!
I've gotta say I drove home all the way with a massive grin on my face- the difference that the remap made in terms of throttle response and just general drivability was amazing The car even sounds more sporty and the fuel gauge didn't even move (hope it aint broken!)- I reckon probably the best mod along with the bilstein shocks for sheer driving pleasure.
Again, really good to meet you all and I'll be dropping Mark a line over the coming weeks too- initial impressions though are that you've gotta be nuts not to remap if your ecu allows.
Hopefully see ya soon!
Stuart
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Really enjoyed the afternoon of talking and fun of seeing what our cars have in the way of BHP
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Gotta agree with you Stuart, the car drives the best it has since I got it. The remap brings all the mods together in to a complete package, It's like driving a different car.
Heres a few pics from yesterday.
Heres a few pics from yesterday.
Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Any before and after figures from anyone? Andy how much did you gain on the day?
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I was with Bill all day Sunday on a run through the New Forest, he appeared happy with his car and he didn't complain too much about following us
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Sorry to be off topic guys.adrianclifford wrote:I was with Bill all day Sunday on a run through the New Forest
Adrian, I assume you were doing the New Forest Run? If so it was a lovely day for it, I usually do the PA announcements at the end of the run, but yesterday was the 1st one I've missed for 9 years. I was at the Ageas Bowl watching England lose the 1-day series against New Zealand Although entertaining batting masterclass from their Martin Guptal.
Anyway Southampton & New Forest have a meeting tomorrow night and I'd be interested if you have any comments or feedback on the day.
Cheers,
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Hi folks,
I concur with comments made above. Many thanks to Rob and Andy (W) for arranging the day. Bernie and Andy for the RR sessions and their hospitality. Thanks also to Mark Stacey for remapping my TF135.
I was one who had two RR sessions - before and after the remapping. The initial readings were 128.3bhp at the flywheel with a max torque of 116 lbs/ft. After the remap, these figures were 132.8bhp and 123 lbs/ft. At the roadwheels, these figures were 104 bhp and 94 lbs/ft before the remap and 108.2 bhp and 100 lbs/ft afterwards.
The engine is standard other than a MGOC S/S standard backbox (PO) and a K & N Apollo induction kit which I fitted. Although the figures show a modest improvement on paper, the driving experience feels much more, being able to pull away at a much lower rpm without labouring the engine. In 3rd I feel I can be almost stopped yet will pull away cleanly. Nice when you're unable to give the engine some "welly" because of road or traffic situations.
I must thank Adrian and Dawn together with fellow MGers from the Anglia centre - Steve/Pam, Michael/Marion - for letting this old codger and his wife Jacqueline to join the group in the NFR on Sunday. We had a fantastic weekend all round. Many, many thanks to everyone. It was also great to put faces to names.
BTW, seeing how nice the TF looks in white, it would have looked fantastic to have all 4 of us in the one colour in convoy.
We've both been grinning ear to ear all weekend.
Bill and Jacqueline
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I concur with comments made above. Many thanks to Rob and Andy (W) for arranging the day. Bernie and Andy for the RR sessions and their hospitality. Thanks also to Mark Stacey for remapping my TF135.
I was one who had two RR sessions - before and after the remapping. The initial readings were 128.3bhp at the flywheel with a max torque of 116 lbs/ft. After the remap, these figures were 132.8bhp and 123 lbs/ft. At the roadwheels, these figures were 104 bhp and 94 lbs/ft before the remap and 108.2 bhp and 100 lbs/ft afterwards.
The engine is standard other than a MGOC S/S standard backbox (PO) and a K & N Apollo induction kit which I fitted. Although the figures show a modest improvement on paper, the driving experience feels much more, being able to pull away at a much lower rpm without labouring the engine. In 3rd I feel I can be almost stopped yet will pull away cleanly. Nice when you're unable to give the engine some "welly" because of road or traffic situations.
I must thank Adrian and Dawn together with fellow MGers from the Anglia centre - Steve/Pam, Michael/Marion - for letting this old codger and his wife Jacqueline to join the group in the NFR on Sunday. We had a fantastic weekend all round. Many, many thanks to everyone. It was also great to put faces to names.
BTW, seeing how nice the TF looks in white, it would have looked fantastic to have all 4 of us in the one colour in convoy.
We've both been grinning ear to ear all weekend.
Bill and Jacqueline
willyphixitt
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Sorry Martin, just picked up your post regarding feedback. A great day, no complaints from me or anybody from the Anglia Centre. Please pass on my congratulations if it's not too late.
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Hi Adrian,adrianclifford wrote:Sorry Martin, just picked up your post regarding feedback. A great day, no complaints from me or anybody from the Anglia Centre. Please pass on my congratulations if it's not too late.
Thanks for the feedback and I will pass your comments back to the crew TOMORROW Yep! I got my knickers in a twist and my days confused, another senior moment
Cheers,
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Re: Rolling Road and Z&F MEMS3 re-tune Day?
Hi All
It was nice to meet you all on Saturday and thanks to Bernie and Andy from Novatech for looking after us and for Rob and Andy for their organisation.
My remap has really made a difference (although only showing a 2.5 bhp increase) the actual performance on the road is totally different. Even my wife who drives the car infrequently noticed the improved response and pick up. So thanks to Mark from ZandF.
See you all again soon.
Ian
It was nice to meet you all on Saturday and thanks to Bernie and Andy from Novatech for looking after us and for Rob and Andy for their organisation.
My remap has really made a difference (although only showing a 2.5 bhp increase) the actual performance on the road is totally different. Even my wife who drives the car infrequently noticed the improved response and pick up. So thanks to Mark from ZandF.
See you all again soon.
Ian
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I need to post some pictures too... may be if I get time later today...?
Chaps, could I ask everyone to drop me a copy of their power curves (especially those with before and after) - I'll put all the data on the website and for the FTF/ SF! articles
Chaps, could I ask everyone to drop me a copy of their power curves (especially those with before and after) - I'll put all the data on the website and for the FTF/ SF! articles