MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

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MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by Steely » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:58 pm

The car was running well apart from a slight belt squeal at start up for a few seconds.. That was next job on list!
Today I gave the car a good clean with pressure washer, and since then it has been running bad, juddering/loosing power like it's misfiring, any ideas what I might have done, and what to check and in which order ?

Thanks, Paul.
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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by webba » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:07 pm

remove the plug leads and wd40 all the conections

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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by Dell » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:15 pm

Sounds like you have got water in the electrics I would start by checking things like the distributor cap, Ignition leads, plug caps & ignition coil packs.
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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by daz » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:37 pm

I'd open a nice cold can & hope it's OK tomorrow :lol: it'll be damp electrics & should dry out quite quickly in this weather.

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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by Steely » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:31 pm

Haha, sounds like a plan!
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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by talkingcars » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:00 am

Did you wash the engine or just the outside of the car? If it is the latter I guess you may have got water through the boot vent.

Leave the engine running for a bit with the boot open.
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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by Steely » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:49 pm

Well today after running it a bit with boot open, it seems "almost" back to normal.. A couple of misses on first run, and one on second.. Hopefully none on the next run. Will be more careful with the pressure washer from now on ;)
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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by Steely » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:07 pm

Damn! Think I spoke too soon.. Third run and this time it's worse than ever, surprised after 2 earlier runs were ok.
It was difficult to start (needed a bit of gas) and is running terrible, very shakes like it's not firing on all cylinders, loss of power, sounds like a diesel.

What next ?
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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by daz » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:53 pm

did you jet wash the engine bay or the outside of the car? If it was the engine bay, the next thing I'd be checking is all the connections, I had one come loose on top of the cam cover & it gave the same symptoms, think it was a VVC connection, remove the plug leads at the plugs & coil packs & give them a good dose of wd40.

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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by Steely » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:23 am

Where are coil packs located ? Do you access from under the car ?
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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by daz » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:31 pm

they're bolted to the side of the engine, just above the sump looking from the back of the car, yes get at them from underneath

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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by Steely » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:41 pm

Had a look at all the connectors I could find including ht leads at plugs and coil packs applied wd40 and reseated, also removed 2 plugs (couldn't get the other 2 out) they looked normal, not black no corrosion, connectors at coil points looked clean too. Put back together and it's still the same!

Any other ideas before I give in and attempt to get it to a garage with a suitable diagnostic ?
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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by Steely » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:43 pm

Any other suggestions before I find a garage ?

And can anyone recommend a garage in South Birmingham, Longbridge/Northfield area ?

Thanks
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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by carlvk » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:47 am

Lickey Hills garage on the hill down to Bromsgrove ask for Ty. He looks after my wife's car and does the MOT's on mine.
I am about ten minutes further south, but I am away this weekend. Mon afternoon I could take a look and hook up my T300 if you like. PM me if you are interested.

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Re: MGF VVC (99) misfire/bad running after pressure wash!

Post by Rob Bell » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:30 am

Sounds like an HT lead is shorting out somewhere? Might be a good investment to replace if you're still running the originals?

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