One touch passenger window mod...
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One touch passenger window mod...
Anyone done it?
I'm going to do it when the nights grow dark at the end of the season. I've a wiring diagram an it looks to me that the control box just needs a permanent live and the rest I can copy from the drivers side.
Does the switch need to be changed or a relay taken out and replaced with a fuse as in the diagram to the bottom left?
I'm going to do it when the nights grow dark at the end of the season. I've a wiring diagram an it looks to me that the control box just needs a permanent live and the rest I can copy from the drivers side.
Does the switch need to be changed or a relay taken out and replaced with a fuse as in the diagram to the bottom left?
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
There is a possibility that if your TF is one with the later electronics, eg Pectron fobs and updated BCU, you may not be able achieve your aim. I don't know this for certain but do know the electrics differ from earler TFs.
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
Oh your having a giraffe!!??
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
I think the one shot window only comes with the later control unit.
It would be possible to get a one shot control box from somewhere like ebay and wire both windows through it, you may even be able to get one that does total clousure.
It would be possible to get a one shot control box from somewhere like ebay and wire both windows through it, you may even be able to get one that does total clousure.
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I'm not. As I said....the later BCU which controls the windows and half a dozen other apparently simple components may snooker your plans.crussell wrote:Oh your having a giraffe!!??
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But I'm sure you will let us all know if you are successful....
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
Just to prove that there is nothing new under the sun, here's how to perform this modification as a retro-fit to a Mk1 MGF, including the diagram on how to modify the harness to allow the fitment of the window lift ECU to the passenger window circuit. http://mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/DIY/on ... /index.htm
As mentioned though, the wiring for the later TFs fitted with the Pektron BCU is a little different, but I would think that the separate window-lift ECU modification would still work. Double check the wiring colours mentioned above - but broadly, MG Rover were pretty consistent on how these were applied to the car.
As mentioned though, the wiring for the later TFs fitted with the Pektron BCU is a little different, but I would think that the separate window-lift ECU modification would still work. Double check the wiring colours mentioned above - but broadly, MG Rover were pretty consistent on how these were applied to the car.
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
In a similar vein I've fitted auto closing windows..
As my F is now fully keyless when the key card goes out of range the windows will auto close..
I was told by someone on dot org that hadn't done it that it couldn't be done.. But it's done...
As my F is now fully keyless when the key card goes out of range the windows will auto close..
I was told by someone on dot org that hadn't done it that it couldn't be done.. But it's done...
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
I breifly thought about this when removign the lift ECU from the Donor VVC .......................... but that was as far as I got ........................................... thinking about it. Perhas when I have more time and less important things to sort out on them. The donor it was mounted by the drivers right foot and the insulation was cut for it. As that carpet and insulation is now in "Elsie" perhaps that whom should get the upgrade?Rob Bell wrote:Just to prove that there is nothing new under the sun, here's how to perform this modification as a retro-fit to a Mk1 MGF, including the diagram on how to modify the harness to allow the fitment of the window lift ECU to the passenger window circuit. http://mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/DIY/on ... /index.htm
As mentioned though, the wiring for the later TFs fitted with the Pektron BCU is a little different, but I would think that the separate window-lift ECU modification would still work. Double check the wiring colours mentioned above - but broadly, MG Rover were pretty consistent on how these were applied to the car.
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
Yes Rob, the point I was making is that later, post mid-2003 cars, do not have the separate window lift ecu at all. The logic for the windows is programmed into the later BCU that contains the relays for the windows amongst other seemingly simple components that would be quite separate on earlier cars. I therefore suggest it may be more complex to achieve than some appear to think.Rob Bell wrote:Just to prove that there is nothing new under the sun, here's how to perform this modification as a retro-fit to a Mk1 MGF, including the diagram on how to modify the harness to allow the fitment of the window lift ECU to the passenger window circuit. http://mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/DIY/on ... /index.htm
As mentioned though, the wiring for the later TFs fitted with the Pektron BCU is a little different, but I would think that the separate window-lift ECU modification would still work. Double check the wiring colours mentioned above - but broadly, MG Rover were pretty consistent on how these were applied to the car.
I acknowledge it can be done but not necessarily as simply as is suggested on older cars or by the addition of separate after-market add-on relay kits, which I assume DD has used.
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
They ECU I used is not after market - it's Rover's own, as fitted to all MY2000 MGFs and pre-2003 TFs - so should be perfectly compatible if inserted as described. Back EMFs should be well contained on automotive grade OEM devices. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating...
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Mines 2004 Rob, will it be similar or programmed from the BCU? Don't mind trying to install the ECU I all it needs is. Live feed but if the BCU needs altering I may wimp out and leave as standard! Lol
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
I am not sure whether the Pektron BCU can be reprogrammed to provide both driver and passenger single-shot functions - one imagines that it may be possible, as the car was available in both LHD and RHD! But it depends on how the single-shot function was enabled.
Failing that, then for the single-shot ECU to be fitted, it is a stand alone unit that fits in the existing loom - and under most circumstances the window functions remain as per standard. Try it and see - the way I originally fitted mine is 100% reversible!
Failing that, then for the single-shot ECU to be fitted, it is a stand alone unit that fits in the existing loom - and under most circumstances the window functions remain as per standard. Try it and see - the way I originally fitted mine is 100% reversible!
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Might be worthwhile a quick call to Paul at http://www.technozen-electronics.co.uk/ ... are-parts/
What he doesn't know about reprogramming the SCU isn't worth knowing.
He is a member on here but don't think he posts much (technozen)
What he doesn't know about reprogramming the SCU isn't worth knowing.
He is a member on here but don't think he posts much (technozen)
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
I fitted a drivers ECU for the passenger side on my tf but it is the early type with Lucas alarm. It was easy to do as all the fittings are there for lhd cars.
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Re: One touch passenger window mod...
So I guess it can be done, just a little more tricky with the later units.
Is it just me that thinks its annoying that you can quickly press a button and one window will roll down while you gotta hold the other button down? I just like to get the windows down roof down on the right days!
Looked at technozens site thanks for that. Think as I need a spare fob I could do with getting that done but add in a few bits at the same time/reprogrammed the unit. Total closure, fogs on, boot pop release etc. guess that's another thing worth doing all at the same time!
Is it just me that thinks its annoying that you can quickly press a button and one window will roll down while you gotta hold the other button down? I just like to get the windows down roof down on the right days!
Looked at technozens site thanks for that. Think as I need a spare fob I could do with getting that done but add in a few bits at the same time/reprogrammed the unit. Total closure, fogs on, boot pop release etc. guess that's another thing worth doing all at the same time!
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