Battery charge light on while driving?

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Battery charge light on while driving?

Post by GJO » Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:17 pm

Our new (to us) 2009 MG TF 135 has recently developed a problem where shortly after starting a journey the battery charge light on the dash comes on and stays on for the rest of the journey. To be clear, the light extinguishes once the engine is started and stays off for the first mile or so before coming on and staying on.

Thinking it might be a slack or worn alternator belt, I purchased a new one from B&G together with one of their rose jointed adjusters. However, when I jacked up the car and examined the belt, it appeared to be sufficiently tight and there is no sign of the alternator being seized or overheating.

Any ideas?
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Re: Battery charge light on while driving?

Post by JeremyC » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:22 pm

Alternator brushes sticking?

Diode pack breaking down when warm?

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Re: Battery charge light on while driving?

Post by Charless » Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:56 am

What voltage are you getting at the battery with engine off, engine on without light on and on with light on?

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Re: Battery charge light on while driving?

Post by GJO » Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:08 am

Charless wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:56 am
What voltage are you getting at the battery with engine off, engine on without light on and on with light on?
Without the engine running I am getting 12.47 volts - the battery is less than six months old.

With the engine at idle speed (about 800 rpm) I am getting 14.0 volts across the battery terminals and I get the same at 2000 and 3000 rpm.
Strangely, I have not been able to replicate the original problem with the car at a stand so I probably need to invest in a cigar lighter adapter so that I can test the voltage on the move.
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Re: Battery charge light on while driving?

Post by JeremyC » Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:00 pm

Engine earth?

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Re: Battery charge light on while driving?

Post by Chris Tideswell » Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:08 pm

Assuming a 09 TF is the same as the MGR F/TF, if the issue was with the alternator electronics the battery warning light wouldn’t aluminate at all when the ignition is on but before the engine is started.

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Re: Battery charge light on while driving?

Post by GJO » Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:51 pm

This is weird - I took the car out for a fairly long run and couldn't replicate the problem.
I did tighten the earth clamp on the battery and I also replaced the bolt that connects the battery earth to the body (it was rusty) the replacement is stainless. That must have done the trick!
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Re: Battery charge light on while driving?

Post by Charless » Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:08 am

I found they didn't remove the paint when fitting the earth strap on all of mine, so the contact point to the body was only the thickness of the metal in the bolt hole or spot welds on the captive nut (the threads vulnerable to corrosion over time). Removing the paint under a new crinkle washer is a good plan on all Fs (and probably TFs).

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