Reverse Gear
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Not many rules really, this board being aimed at technical issues, it shouldn't fall foul (hopefully) of some of the more personal issues that can affect forums.
Rule 1 - Is that you need to think very carefully before posting anything technical or asking anything technical relating to the security system of the car - See 'Security Issues' sticky for more info.
Rule 2 - We (MGF Register) do not support copyright infringement and therefore references to CD ROM, PDF versions or paper copies of the workshop manual (for instance) should not be posted on the forum. We don't want to get into trouble and we'd rather sell you a genuine hard copy through our Regalia shop anyway!
Because advice is honestly and freely given in this technical section, much of it will be amateur experienced based, so any information is given in good faith and is not guaranteed as correct.
- AyB
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Reverse Gear
I seem to be having a slight problem engaging reverse gear. Reading the handbook it would appear that this gear has no synchromesh. Not a problem, I just pause a few seconds and then I can shift into gear most of the time. On certain occasions the gear lever feels like it is "in" but when lifting the clutch a horrible grinding/whirring sound is heard.
Is there a knack to engaging reverse or am I looking at something more sinister
I have been told that by dropping the clutch, moving the gear lever into third and then into reverse helps this problem, which I have tried with some success.
Maybe this is another quirky feature of MGF's.
Any comments would be appreciated.
Is there a knack to engaging reverse or am I looking at something more sinister
I have been told that by dropping the clutch, moving the gear lever into third and then into reverse helps this problem, which I have tried with some success.
Maybe this is another quirky feature of MGF's.
Any comments would be appreciated.
- apttony
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Re: Reverse Gear
Hi Ayb,
As a side issue, have you checked the gearbox oil level at all?
Tony
Yes, stick it into another gear, nudge the car a lttle, and then try reverse again. It's a common quirk.I have been told that by dropping the clutch, moving the gear lever into third and then into reverse helps this problem, which I have tried with some success
As a side issue, have you checked the gearbox oil level at all?
Tony
- AyB
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Re: Reverse Gear
Thanks for your reply. Perhaps it's not as bad as I first thought.apttony wrote:Hi Ayb,
Yes, stick it into another gear, nudge the car a lttle, and then try reverse again. It's a common quirk.I have been told that by dropping the clutch, moving the gear lever into third and then into reverse helps this problem, which I have tried with some success
As a side issue, have you checked the gearbox oil level at all?
Tony
The car had a full service before I picked it up but I must say that I have not really checked anything, apart from oil and water.
On another point............where can I obtain a workshop manual. The usual source, Haynes does not appear to produce one.
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Re: Reverse Gear
You're right - Haynes don't do one.On another point............where can I obtain a workshop manual. The usual source, Haynes does not appear to produce one.
What you can get, either in paper form or on CD, is the Rover Workshop Manual. Admin Edit: Please see Rule 2 above in reference to the CD versions or even a Rover Dealer (might be more expensive there!)
Last edited by James Curgenven on Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Clarification of Copyright issues.
Reason: Clarification of Copyright issues.
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Re: Reverse Gear
Cheers............I'm on to it.
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Re: Reverse Gear
Check out the MGF Register online shop http://www.mgfregister.org/shop/29-mgf- ... anual.html for the manual. MGF TF manual is also available too. You can also pick up both at a show the MGF Register is at on the regalia stand to save the postage if you prefer.AyB wrote: On another point............where can I obtain a workshop manual. The usual source, Haynes does not appear to produce one.
1998 MGF VVC, 2001 Trophy 160 & 2013 MG6 GT TSE
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Re: Reverse Gear
The CD version is only available through (I believe) Rimmer Brothers, the copies you see on ebay are illegal copies which the register will not recommend you purchase.
Please see Rule 2 in the clearly visible Forum Rules above.
Please see Rule 2 in the clearly visible Forum Rules above.
- AyB
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Re: Reverse Gear
I take it that the CD version on ebay infringes copyright of the original?James Curgenven wrote:The CD version is only available through (I believe) Rimmer Brothers, the copies you see on ebay are illegal copies which the register will not recommend you purchase.
Please see Rule 2 in the clearly visible Forum Rules above.
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Re: Reverse Gear
Correct. Unless you've bought it from an MGR Dealer Authorised to sell them on, it's copyright infringement and thus a big no-no.AyB wrote:I take it that the CD version on ebay infringes copyright of the original?James Curgenven wrote:The CD version is only available through (I believe) Rimmer Brothers, the copies you see on ebay are illegal copies which the register will not recommend you purchase.
Please see Rule 2 in the clearly visible Forum Rules above.
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Re: Reverse Gear
Not sure if there is a MG dealer in Suffolk/Norfolk.
- AyB
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Re: Reverse Gear
Good news............just found one in Norwich.AyB wrote:Not sure if there is a MG dealer in Suffolk/Norfolk.
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Re: Reverse Gear
The best gear to select before reverse is 2nd or 4th not 3rd, for general peace and quiet. The clutch not being fully depressed (eg seat too far back, wrong shoes) or a gear cable out of adjustment can also make for a bit of a noise. But the PG1 is notorious for noisey reverse engagement, your skeletal avatar suggests you might remember double declutching - that can help, but not completely eradicate, the issue too!
- AyB
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Re: Reverse Gear
Hi Charles,I will certainly try your recommendations, and yes you are quite right, I do remember double clutching!! That takes me back to my Mini days (the original mini) and Triumph Herald fun.
I guess practice makes perfect. I love these cars, so much more fun than Japanese.
I guess practice makes perfect. I love these cars, so much more fun than Japanese.