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MGF Power steering

Post by rob76gt » Tue May 11, 2010 10:09 am

Can all you gurus out there confirm that all MGFs were fitted with power steering? or which models are not. I am going to look at a 96 P which has "heavy steering"

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by Keith Williams » Tue May 11, 2010 10:22 am

Not all MGFs had power steering. The VVC model had it from the start but it was an optional extra on the other models. Not sure when it became standard on all models but a P reg may not have it fitted.
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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by Phil MGFPM » Tue May 11, 2010 10:30 am

Hi, I have a Mk1 98 MGF which did not get EPAS; built late 97, first registered feb-98, must have been one of the last non-VVCs to not get it as standard - the driver side of the engine bay opposite the battery is empty if no EPAS.
Previously owned '98 F 1.8mpi bought 2008; then a '97 F Mk1 1.8 VVC in nightfire red, bought 2011; now a '01 F 1.8mpi in tahiti blue, bought Nov-19

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by Rob Bell » Tue May 11, 2010 11:36 am

Phil MGFPM wrote:Hi, I have a Mk1 98 MGF which did not get EPAS; built late 97, first registered feb-98, must have been one of the last non-VVCs to not get it as standard - the driver side of the engine bay opposite the battery is empty if no EPAS.
Yes, on early MPis EPAS was an optional extra. I can't now recall the swap over date - 1998/1999? Dieter may have the change over VIN to look out for.

Phil, the area you refer to is for ABS. When occupied, that tray carries a Bosch ABS pump...

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Unfortunately, there aren't many easy inspection indicators to tell whether a car has EPAS or not from the curb side - but EPAS cars will have a 40AMP fuse on the underbonnet fuse panel for it if fitted.

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by rob76gt » Tue May 11, 2010 12:46 pm

Thanks all I know where to look now. :)

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by Rob Bell » Tue May 11, 2010 1:05 pm

I spotted that you're after a project car - what's the plan? Restoration/show car/track car? :)

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by rob76gt » Tue May 11, 2010 1:47 pm

Rob Bell wrote:I spotted that you're after a project car - what's the plan? Restoration/show car/track car? :)
I am going to give the MGF a chance to redeem itself after only managing 350 miles in total in the last one! I commute 100miles a day to work and a project appeals because I dont have to rely on it from day one and can return it to the road without rushing.

No plans for track day car at the present time, just a bit of fun 8-) to break up the tedium of the same journey every day. I've had various Spitfires, MGBs, TR7s over the years and I suppose there is a little mid-life-crisis going on too ;)

Just been offered a deal on a 96 P which is better than project car (cross fingers for this one)

Must say I'm impressed by the depth of knowledge here on the forum - hope I'll need more of it soon :thumbsu:

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by Rob Bell » Tue May 11, 2010 2:32 pm

Good for you Rob :thumbsu:

My other sports car is a Mk3 Triumph Spitfire! [Cue bun fight from Midget owners! :lol:] - and I have always rather wanted a TR7 convertible... Mind you, given half a chance, I'd fill a warehouse full of British sports cars, from Alpines to Lotus Elises! ;)

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by rob76gt » Tue May 11, 2010 3:18 pm

:D I can speak with some "authority" having owned both the Spitfire 3 is good but my 1965 AH Sprite MK3 (nee Midget MK2) was the most fun ever ;)

My TR7 was a Speke built car with 4 speed Dolomite gearbox. The usable rev range was pathetic 3500 to 5000 and the box broke leaving me with 4th gear only (but I drove it like that for 4-weeks!).

I enjoyed the "F" while it lasted although the pedal box was a bit cramped for size 11s do you know of any mods in this area or should I look for an automatic :?

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by Rob Bell » Tue May 11, 2010 4:21 pm

I'd agree with you - a swing-spring is going to major on ride rather than handling, but I couldn't afford a sprite when I got the Triumph - in those days, Mk3's were much cheaper! Probably the most valuable Spitfire model these days though. A car to cruise in I reckon. A Spridget is a car to drive...

Oh, and I'd probably avoid the Speke cars... ;) :lol:

Now have 2 MGFs - one I've owned since new from 1996!

The biggest gripes regarding the MGF driving position are many fold - a brake pedal that's set too high (can be lowered - there's a kit from Mike Satur that's pretty easy to fit) and a driving position that is too high, that tends to force the legs up against the steering wheel. There's a seat base lowering kit from VHS that works here, and for further lowering, a different seat base spring (Brown and Gammons etc). Personally I find the pedal spacing to be a bit too large, but perhaps that's because I've got Chapman-sized boots!

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by Bandit » Wed May 12, 2010 1:20 am

The best Mk3 Spitfires are the ones with spaceframe chassis, ali & GRP body and 300bhp of V8 up front, provided you can forgive the wicked bump-steer and use only the stickiest of sticky tyres 8-)

The MY2000 onwards Steptronic F has the solution to the pedal issue, but can't cope with any more than the entry-level power output so can frustrate the 'enthusiastic driver'. Would definitely come with power steering though ;)

Knocking the brake pedal height down a bit does help, but still heel'n'toe-ing can be a challenge. My project car task list includes addressing this with a lateral mod to the brake pedal, but at current rate it'll be some years before I can report on whether it worked...

VHS are working on a modified steering arm (track rod end to hub) that will quicken the steering and sounds very appealing, but would I suspect be less so if you didn't have EPAS - bring on the spinach...

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Re: MGF Power steering

Post by rob76gt » Wed May 12, 2010 3:40 pm

bandit wrote:The best Mk3 Spitfires are the ones with spaceframe chassis, ali & GRP body and 300bhp of V8 up front, provided you can forgive the wicked bump-steer and use only the stickiest of sticky tyres 8-)

The MY2000 onwards Steptronic F has the solution to the pedal issue, but can't cope with any more than the entry-level power output so can frustrate the 'enthusiastic driver'. Would definitely come with power steering though ;)

Knocking the brake pedal height down a bit does help, but still heel'n'toe-ing can be a challenge. My project car task list includes addressing this with a lateral mod to the brake pedal, but at current rate it'll be some years before I can report on whether it worked...

VHS are working on a modified steering arm (track rod end to hub) that will quicken the steering and sounds very appealing, but would I suspect be less so if you didn't have EPAS - bring on the spinach...
Most of the old bangers I've owned have been without Power steering (even as an option) so I'm OK with an upper body work out. If it only helped with reducing the waistline :oops:

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