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Not many rules really, this board being aimed at technical issues, it shouldn't fall foul (hopefully) of some of the more personal issues that can affect forums.
Rule 1 - Is that you need to think very carefully before posting anything technical or asking anything technical relating to the security system of the car - See 'Security Issues' sticky for more info.
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Because advice is honestly and freely given in this technical section, much of it will be amateur experienced based, so any information is given in good faith and is not guaranteed as correct.
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Re: TF Tyres
True Mykel, Toyo's take a little running in, I don't think as much as 600 miles though. I feel they need a little warming up each day too as they feel lazy when cold but other than that, you know I'm a big fan.
On the work car...2008 Renault Scenic that covers 1,000 miles per week I fitted new Kumho Ecsta's 205/55x16 as my local independant tyre fitter recommends them, he rates them highly and I'll admit they're fine, nice and quiet too but the wear rate is amazing considering I often carry a full load plus wheelchairs and full tank of fuel. Fitted in February at 20,000 miles the car is now on 62,000 miles with plenty of wear left, that's hard to beat.
On the work car...2008 Renault Scenic that covers 1,000 miles per week I fitted new Kumho Ecsta's 205/55x16 as my local independant tyre fitter recommends them, he rates them highly and I'll admit they're fine, nice and quiet too but the wear rate is amazing considering I often carry a full load plus wheelchairs and full tank of fuel. Fitted in February at 20,000 miles the car is now on 62,000 miles with plenty of wear left, that's hard to beat.
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Re: TF Tyres
Hello everyone - whats the reccomendation for us on 15" wheels. Its got the original equipment Conti's on it at present. The car has done 36000 and I think the fronts are the originals and are nearly worn out, whilst the back have been replaced with the OE and are fine. The handling seems fine to me and its done pretty well in the snow.
I'm minded to go for the OE on the front. Does anyone have an opinion.
What does service bullitin TB0128 say ?
Cheers
Paul
I'm minded to go for the OE on the front. Does anyone have an opinion.
What does service bullitin TB0128 say ?
Cheers
Paul
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Re: TF Tyres
General consensus seems to be Toyo Proxes T1R. I have them on 15" rims.
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Re: TF Tyres
I'm happy to stick withToyo's as long as they are available. Talking to my local independant tyre guy this week, he tells me that Nexen have raised their game recently, a good tyre at a good price, they also do non-directional tyres in 16" too.
He's been a fan of Kumho's for some years, Dawn and I have them on our work cars and they're good but they keep raising their prices so I think I'll try Nexen soon as my Kumho Ecsta's have been on for 9 months and over 34,000 miles.
He's been a fan of Kumho's for some years, Dawn and I have them on our work cars and they're good but they keep raising their prices so I think I'll try Nexen soon as my Kumho Ecsta's have been on for 9 months and over 34,000 miles.
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Re: TF Tyres
Drove with my used car tyres Eagle FF1 until no more tread, even safely......
First, replaced front ones with MARANGONI Zeta linea (ITALY),
then rear ones......... at around 70€ ___from Delticom, 123pneus, etc______________ cheers ________ TF160@sfr.fr ________________
First, replaced front ones with MARANGONI Zeta linea (ITALY),
then rear ones......... at around 70€ ___from Delticom, 123pneus, etc______________ cheers ________ TF160@sfr.fr ________________
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Re: TF Tyres
Hi every one! First post.
Just bought mgf 2001 1.8 vvc.I'm going to replace tyres for mot. currently has 215/40r16 and 205/45r16 on,i've done a search on the forum about tyre sizes (a good read ). But what do you peeps think is the best combination.
1- leave the sizes as is.
2- go back to standard 215 all round.
3 or other options that you have tried n tested.
cheers for any advice.
Martin.
Just bought mgf 2001 1.8 vvc.I'm going to replace tyres for mot. currently has 215/40r16 and 205/45r16 on,i've done a search on the forum about tyre sizes (a good read ). But what do you peeps think is the best combination.
1- leave the sizes as is.
2- go back to standard 215 all round.
3 or other options that you have tried n tested.
cheers for any advice.
Martin.
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Re: TF Tyres
Martin, ideally 195/45x16 front and 215/40x16 rear, this gives better lead in and reduces the tramlining effect. Many vvc's were fitted with 215/40x16 all round, nothing wrong with that, it's your choice.
Of course that leaves you with different size tyres but it's something we all learn to live with as it's not really a problem. Keep your spare as a 195 tyre.
Be warned, because of the nature of the construction and handling please choose your tyres carefully, they do not like many mix combinations or the cheap budget tyres they will have you off the road if you're not very careful and lightfooted,
Of course that leaves you with different size tyres but it's something we all learn to live with as it's not really a problem. Keep your spare as a 195 tyre.
Be warned, because of the nature of the construction and handling please choose your tyres carefully, they do not like many mix combinations or the cheap budget tyres they will have you off the road if you're not very careful and lightfooted,
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Re: TF Tyres
going to go back to standard (215) for the time being, keep the insurance happy & let me get used to the motor then start playing with mod's!
Re: TF Tyres
Having fitted 280mm discs all round have reverted to 15" VVC wheels; new Toyo T1R's 185/55 F, 205/50 R - simply couldn't find new GSD2's
Also fitted lowering knuckles and polybushed rear trailing arms, re-gassed to 345mm, rides as new!
Grip is fine but steering is vague in a straight line, at speed.
Had 4 wheel alignment; planning on fitting Seat Leon or Trophy splitter - any suggestions?
TIA
Also fitted lowering knuckles and polybushed rear trailing arms, re-gassed to 345mm, rides as new!
Grip is fine but steering is vague in a straight line, at speed.
Had 4 wheel alignment; planning on fitting Seat Leon or Trophy splitter - any suggestions?
TIA
Peter
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Re: TF Tyres
What car is it Tia ?, F or TF.
If it's a TF leave the front as it is, it handles perfectly well (providing the mechanicals are as they should be, yours sounds like it is). If anything, try changing tyre pressures, 28F/36R is a good start, our TF loves that even fully loaded at European motorway speeds and mountain passes.
If it's an F then there are front lift beliefs, therefore the Trophy splitter but look at the KH (Krafthaus) spoiler, there's a picture of my F on the thread called Pandora with the KH spoiler fitted, it changed the front handling dramatically and I never had any more concerns.
As far as I'm aware the Cupra lip spoiler fits only TF's not F's and I don't think it would look right on an F anyway.
If it's a TF leave the front as it is, it handles perfectly well (providing the mechanicals are as they should be, yours sounds like it is). If anything, try changing tyre pressures, 28F/36R is a good start, our TF loves that even fully loaded at European motorway speeds and mountain passes.
If it's an F then there are front lift beliefs, therefore the Trophy splitter but look at the KH (Krafthaus) spoiler, there's a picture of my F on the thread called Pandora with the KH spoiler fitted, it changed the front handling dramatically and I never had any more concerns.
As far as I'm aware the Cupra lip spoiler fits only TF's not F's and I don't think it would look right on an F anyway.
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Re: TF Tyres
Interesting thread and i have just fitted Toyos to my TF160. However I am a little confused as to what the tyre pressures should be. On Rob Bell's website it states 26F/28R, the instruction book states 26F/36R and Adrian above states 28F/36R. I know that TFs are sensitive to pressures and I am having a slight issue on turning into LH bends - feels like oversteer which becomes understeer . I am running 26F/36R, with the suspension set at 12 clicks front and 17 rear (Mike Satur kit).
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
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Re: TF Tyres
Use what the handbook saysWebby wrote:Interesting thread and i have just fitted Toyos to my TF160. However I am a little confused as to what the tyre pressures should be. On Rob Bell's website it states 26F/28R, the instruction book states 26F/36R and Adrian above states 28F/36R. I know that TFs are sensitive to pressures and I am having a slight issue on turning into LH bends - feels like oversteer which becomes understeer . I am running 26F/36R, with the suspension set at 12 clicks front and 17 rear (Mike Satur kit).
Any ideas?
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Re: TF Tyres
As Colin says, go with the handbook, the change in shocks should not affect the tyre pressures but don't be afraid to experiment slightly and see what you are happiest with. I alter the rears to suit the load and expected speeds ie slightly higher when in Europe hence 36 on the rear. But back in the UK I'm happy with 26 front so I suggest you go with that.
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Re: TF Tyres
I have just bought a pair of the recommended Toyo Proxes T1-R 195/45 R16 80V on the front wheels on my 2004 TF- wow what a difference!
My front Goodyear GSD2 tyres were well worn and the car was bad over bumps and on worn roads with ruts. The Toyo tyres have made the car very stable even on worn roads, can't recommend them more.
My front Goodyear GSD2 tyres were well worn and the car was bad over bumps and on worn roads with ruts. The Toyo tyres have made the car very stable even on worn roads, can't recommend them more.
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Re: TF Tyres
On a tf, is 215s all round ok so long as good brand of tyre?
Got my eyes on a set on the bay...
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Re: TF Tyres
It's not the brand of tyre that is critical on the F/TF, rather the block pattern (as is the case for all mid engined cars). This results on only a couple of official recommendations from MG (now that the GSD2's are unavailable):
Either
Front Falken Ziex ZE912 195/45 R16 84V I0123 Extra Load, from Thailand
Rear Falken Ziex ZE912 215/40 R16 86W I0123 Extra Load, from Thailand
Front Toyo Proxes T1-R 195/45 R16 80V PXT1-R-2 ANH3608 from Japan
Rear Toyo Proxes T1-R 215/40 R16 86WPXT1-R-3 ANH3608 from Japan
Full details here
Either
Front Falken Ziex ZE912 195/45 R16 84V I0123 Extra Load, from Thailand
Rear Falken Ziex ZE912 215/40 R16 86W I0123 Extra Load, from Thailand
Front Toyo Proxes T1-R 195/45 R16 80V PXT1-R-2 ANH3608 from Japan
Rear Toyo Proxes T1-R 215/40 R16 86WPXT1-R-3 ANH3608 from Japan
Full details here
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On that basis someone on ebay has just lot a sale!:p
Thanks for the confirmation, still searching for cheapest/best combo....
Thanks for the confirmation, still searching for cheapest/best combo....
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Re: TF Tyres
When I was looking for Toyos a few months back EARS Motorsport were the cheapest then, they also sell on ebay.
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Re: TF Tyres
Yep, been looking at them too, an hours drive away but worth it at those prices!
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Re: TF Tyres
Don't forget to add £10 (per corner) for fitting!.crussell wrote:Yep, been looking at them too, an hours drive away but worth it at those prices!