TF Tyres

Neil Rushton · Post by **Neil Rushton** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:17 pm

I would love to try some Hankook Ventus evo v12s on the TF but have never felt brave enough I rate them on our other car BUT theres a world of difference between a FWD hatchback & a TF!!!

Frank in Sweden · Post by **Frank in Sweden** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:38 pm

Thank´s. Will do. I am afraid with 2,4 bar on the rear, on Romanian roads, I will be needing some extra cushion under my a...

Post by **Mykel** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:18 am

I'd second Adrian’s suggestion to get the Falkens in 185/205 combination if available, I have the predecessors (ZE 912) on my TF and they are brilliant. Yet I wouldn’t put the pressure up to 2.4 on the rears, on the MGF I’ve always been happy with 1.9/2.1. Whilst 2.4 is perfectly fine on a TF with the revised rear axle setup, imho the F will feel better with not too big a difference from front to rear, especially on 15" alloys.

Although you might indeed be more comfortable with the factory recommendation of 1.8/1.9 on those lousy Romanian roads, like the Transfagarasan or the Transalpina (green with envy

).

Frank in Sweden · Post by **Frank in Sweden** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:46 pm

After some reading in Rob Bells recommendations for tyres, and some good advice from this forum, I now mounted a complete new set of Falken ZIEX in my car, replacing a set of Continental tyres from the previous owner. What a spectatular difference! The runs runs straight, breaks very good, and it is a much more comfortable ride. Also the noise level is much much lower. I will now have the geometri checked, because I could see some uneven wear, especially on the rear tyres. The local Romanian specialist has the standard values for MGF geometri settings, and I am curious to see what the deviation may be. So far, so good. I am preparing for a drive from Bucharest to Stockholm...some 2.700 kilometres...

Post by **colintf** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:54 pm

Frank in Sweden wrote:After some reading in Rob Bells recommendations for tyres, and some good advice from this forum, I now mounted a complete new set of Falken ZIEX in my car, replacing a set of Continental tyres from the previous owner. What a spectatular difference! The runs runs straight, breaks very good, and it is a much more comfortable ride. Also the noise level is much much lower. I will now have the geometri checked, because I could see some uneven wear, especially on the rear tyres. The local Romanian specialist has the standard values for MGF geometri settings, and I am curious to see what the deviation may be. So far, so good. I am preparing for a drive from Bucharest to Stockholm...some 2.700 kilometres...

That's great news Frank

adrianclifford · Post by **adrianclifford** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:30 pm

Just ordered (for fellow Essex members) two sets of Toyo's for £296 a car all in. Not bad as the last pair I bought came in at £64 + £10 fitting each which as it happens is £296 so no price increase for nearly a year.

buzzbar · Post by **buzzbar** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:48 am

Please forgive me if this is a stupid question, is it possible to fit the same size tyres front and rear? And do they have to be directional as I wanted to carry a spare alloy.

adrianclifford · Post by **adrianclifford** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:53 pm

Yes you can on both 15" and 16" wheels. Fit the larger size if you wish ie 205/50x15 and 215/40x16. You can fit a same size spare, that can be non directional. I would strongly recommend the fitting of recommended tyres only ie Toyo T1R or Falken 912 as described previously. If you have to use your spare it's a 50/50 chance it will be the right or wrong way round, not too bad in the dry but potentially dangerous if driven fast in the wet, hence the reason spares are recommended to be driven no faster than 50mph if the wrong way round.

Post by **Mykel** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:54 pm

If you are concerned about the spare wheel go for the Falkens. These are non-directional, only marked on the outside.

buzzbar · Post by **buzzbar** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:17 pm

Thank you for the info, after 30 years on bikes it's all a bit new to me.

buzzbar · Post by **buzzbar** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:35 pm

Sorry gents one last question, I am on 16inch wheels so if I go for the Falkens non directional same size all round. What size would be the max size to go away from the low profiles to give a smoother ride?

Post by **Mykel** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:34 pm

If you want a smoother ride I'd think 195/45R16 would be the size to use all round. Some folks over here use this as the winter tyre setup with AP brakes fitted. But with the narrower tyres fitted to the rear be prepared for less grip on the back end which might be an issue in the rain.

But then, why would you want to fit the same size all round anyway? Both the Falkens and the Toyos are available in the recommended different sizes.

buzzbar · Post by **buzzbar** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:20 pm

Hi Mykel, I wanted the same size all round so I could do away with the space saver wheel.

Post by **Mykel** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:04 pm

I have full size spares in both cars, both on 16" alloys and they are 215/40R16. Good for the F, off the mark for the fronts on the TF. As the spare would only be on for a couple of dozen miles or so in case of emergency I wouldn’t bother. Having the everyday ride spoilt just for the sake of using an evenly sized spare (which I’ve needed to use about 10 times in over 30 years of motoring) is pointless imho.

buzzbar · Post by **buzzbar** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:38 pm

Point taken matey

sniperpenguin · Post by **sniperpenguin** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:38 am

Side note - I thought the reason for the size difference was purely to dial in a natural degree of understeer?

adrianclifford · Post by **adrianclifford** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:13 pm

sniperpenguin wrote:Side note - I thought the reason for the size difference was purely to dial in a natural degree of understeer?

And to reduce tramlining.

Having just returned from a wet and sometimes windy Norway, I can say with all confidence the Toyo's are still as good as ever, they never let go once and we pushed so hard up the mountains and hard braking and cornering coming down, I really don't know how they are supposed to have poor wet performance.

Plezier · Post by **Plezier** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:19 pm

The poor wet performance on the labels for the Toyos I'll admit has me somewhat concerned add in the sudden price rise on tyres. On the MOT noticed that due to the suspension bush issues and the damaged rear mounts, now replaced, on the front sub frame meant that the tracking has been out and thus the inner edge of the rear tyres are worn unevenly leaving mucho tread in the middle and outer edge. So have been comparing prices and wondering should we go 195/45/16's on the front and 215/40/16's on the rear or stick with 215's all round.

Of course this on "Elsie" who is a 97 MGF VVC NOT TF!

adrianclifford · Post by **adrianclifford** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:39 pm

Your choice really, I have heard of no problems with either set up but I've never driven an F with 215's all round, although many I know have with no reported problems.

Fraser · Post by **Fraser** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:29 am

My latest copy of "Safety Fast" has a little piece on fitting Toyo tyres to the rear wheels. Apparently Toyo changed the tyre spec, so the recommendation is to not fit Toyos to the rear unless also fitted to the front.

I really do wonder if this TF tyres issue will ever be put to bed ! Only two tyre recommendations from MG Motor, and for one of them we have to fit a full set or it's dangerous, apparently ! Just what is it about the TF that makes tyres such an issue ?

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