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Because advice is honestly and freely given in this technical section, much of it will be amateur experienced based, so any information is given in good faith and is not guaranteed as correct.
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mgtfnut
- Posts: 788
- Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:22 pm
- MGF Register Region: South Wales
- Model of Car: TF 135
- Location: Dinas Powys
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by mgtfnut » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:54 am
redarrow wrote:I fort you lot got this solved for £70 time ago.
i think, not sure, but i bet, there jewelery makers, could re chrome for less.
£70 is steep for re chroming, it not a lot to do, or chrome to be honest.
surly someone trying to get a better price, only cost around £15 for the chroming liquid.
i no it better then paying £250 for new bowls.
ideal world.
Get a user to do the chrome work, for the cost liquid/electric ,little drink £20
all in £35 both done.
be nice
It's not chrome
The silvering is a probably a process involving vacuum deposition of vapourised aluminium onto the plastic reflector bowl - an expensive process which is not easily replicated without serious financial outlay.
Jerry
MG TF 135 - 100k
Suzuki SJ 413 - 309k
Skoda Yeti SE 110 4x4 - 131k
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Charless
- Posts: 2364
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- MGF Register Region: South Coast
- Model of Car: 96 Mpi, 99 VVC
- Location: Chilbolton
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by Charless » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:27 am
People have looked at this problem over the years and the consensus seems to be: It is possible to 'shiny plate' things quite cheaply and it then degrades quite quickly too - which is worse than useless.
The Dual Metalising process is relatively expensive, nearer £100, but fairly heatproof and sealed - which is important for the 'sealed' headlamp bowl application(trapped bulb heat).
Lots of people have tried DM and been satisfied that it is a good professional outfit providing a long term service for a justifiable price. In life the cheapest things are very rarely the best.
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Mykel
- Regional Rep
- Posts: 2759
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- MGF Register Region: Europe
- Model of Car: MG TF Monogram
- Location: Schwalmtal, NRW, Germany
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by Mykel » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:53 am
That's right, Charles,
in German we have the the proverb "kostenlos ist meistens umsonst", which roughly translates "free of charge is mostly for nothing".
I definitely think that this applies to cheap labour as well.
MGTF:
2004 TF 135 in
Monogram Spectre, black leather, RHD
MGZR:
2001 ZR 160 in
Solar Red, LHD, LPG conv
Classic:
1972 MG Midget MkIII RWA in
Blaze Red
MGF Register regional rep for Germany -- germany@mgfregister.org
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lee632
- Posts: 19
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- MGF Register Region: Midlands
- Model of Car: TF 135
- Location: Mansfield, Notts
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by lee632 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:28 pm
I put 100W (offroad use only it says on the box) BOSHH bulbs in mine and the lights are great but they are about £25 each...
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Mykel
- Regional Rep
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- MGF Register Region: Europe
- Model of Car: MG TF Monogram
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by Mykel » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:36 pm
Well Lee, those 100W bulbs will vaporise the rest of your reflectors' chroming in no time, I'm afraid. I would even think the reflector bowls themselves might get out of proper shape in the long run due to the much higher temperatures the bulbs create.
MGTF:
2004 TF 135 in
Monogram Spectre, black leather, RHD
MGZR:
2001 ZR 160 in
Solar Red, LHD, LPG conv
Classic:
1972 MG Midget MkIII RWA in
Blaze Red
MGF Register regional rep for Germany -- germany@mgfregister.org
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redarrow
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by redarrow » Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:23 am
I only commented thinking a mgf car user, in the mgf club, could lower the price, as said it cheaper then new bowls or lights.
not a bad price anyway really.
what they last for, when re silvered, over 6 years so far, i think one user said.
