MGF mk1 to mk2 Centre console conversion.
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MGF mk1 to mk2 Centre console conversion.
Wondered if anyone can help?
Last night I changed the centre console on my 1997 VVC for the Mk2 version, however I have experienced a few problems with the Fog light switches (front and back). From a glance it looks like the wire harness' should plug straight into the new mk2 switches, however they dont?
What do i need to do to make these fit???
Cheers
Seb
Last night I changed the centre console on my 1997 VVC for the Mk2 version, however I have experienced a few problems with the Fog light switches (front and back). From a glance it looks like the wire harness' should plug straight into the new mk2 switches, however they dont?
What do i need to do to make these fit???
Cheers
Seb
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Re: MGF mk1 to mk2 Centre console conversion.
That's odd - I'm pretty sure mine just plugged straight in.
Andrew Phillips
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Re: MGF mk1 to mk2 Centre console conversion.
Thanks for your reply!
hmmmm strange....... The connectors do look like a straight fit but when putting them together they are extremely tight? Were they when you changed yours?
hmmmm strange....... The connectors do look like a straight fit but when putting them together they are extremely tight? Were they when you changed yours?
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Re: MGF mk1 to mk2 Centre console conversion.
Not that i remember, they were a straight 'plug and play' job.
My F is an early Mark 1 and the switches were new at the time of conversion (2003) so i can't see how there could be a change in multiplugs - it would mean they changed them in the interim period and then changed them back.
The only issue i had with the multiplugs is the location in the fascia, the MY2K switches have a 'key' on the top of them to locate in a specific slot in the fascia, i trimmed the key off with a craft knife so that i could put them where i wanted them. Other than that it was really straightforward.
The multiplugs to the clock and oil temperature gauge changed when they went to silver dial faces from cream (Mark 1 to MY2K) but this is the only issue loom i am aware of. Not a problem for me as i vastly prefer the cream dial faces anyway so i retained my original instruments, but will be an issue if you want to switch to the silver faced ones.
My F is an early Mark 1 and the switches were new at the time of conversion (2003) so i can't see how there could be a change in multiplugs - it would mean they changed them in the interim period and then changed them back.
The only issue i had with the multiplugs is the location in the fascia, the MY2K switches have a 'key' on the top of them to locate in a specific slot in the fascia, i trimmed the key off with a craft knife so that i could put them where i wanted them. Other than that it was really straightforward.
The multiplugs to the clock and oil temperature gauge changed when they went to silver dial faces from cream (Mark 1 to MY2K) but this is the only issue loom i am aware of. Not a problem for me as i vastly prefer the cream dial faces anyway so i retained my original instruments, but will be an issue if you want to switch to the silver faced ones.
Andrew Phillips
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Re: MGF mk1 to mk2 Centre console conversion.
There was an electrical re-design at the end of 2003/beginning 2004 - but I don't know whether this affected the loom plugs for the switches?? Otherwise, as Andy says, it should all be 'plug and play' (other than the electric window switches - but you retain your originals in any case).
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Re: MGF mk1 to mk2 Centre console conversion.
The spaces for the switches on the MY2K console have spaces for the keys but they are the wrong way round for the two light harness' so i have also taken them off the switch.Scarlet Fever wrote:Not that i remember, they were a straight 'plug and play' job.
My F is an early Mark 1 and the switches were new at the time of conversion (2003) so i can't see how there could be a change in multiplugs - it would mean they changed them in the interim period and then changed them back.
The only issue i had with the multiplugs is the location in the fascia, the MY2K switches have a 'key' on the top of them to locate in a specific slot in the fascia, i trimmed the key off with a craft knife so that i could put them where i wanted them. Other than that it was really straightforward.
The multiplugs to the clock and oil temperature gauge changed when they went to silver dial faces from cream (Mark 1 to MY2K) but this is the only issue loom i am aware of. Not a problem for me as i vastly prefer the cream dial faces anyway so i retained my original instruments, but will be an issue if you want to switch to the silver faced ones.
That is strange about the clock and oil temp as I removed the cream ones and replaced with the silver ones and the multiplugs fitted straight in?
I am beginning to think i have an F with a combination of the mk1 and MY2k wiring looms?
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Re: MGF mk1 to mk2 Centre console conversion.
Ok good news, I have narrowed my fault down to the front fog light relay. Apparently depending on the year of the wiring loom and the year of the switch, depends on the type of relay you need?
My next question to save me a bit of time ......... which of the three relays in the fuse box would be used for the front fogs? Top, Middle or Bottom?
Many thanks
Seb
My next question to save me a bit of time ......... which of the three relays in the fuse box would be used for the front fogs? Top, Middle or Bottom?
Many thanks
Seb
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Re: MGF mk1 to mk2 Centre console conversion.
Hmmm, could explain things - i don't have front fogs. No idea which o fthe relays it is either i'm afraid - anyone?
Andrew Phillips