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a666one
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by a666one » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:55 pm
Having had the head gsaket & 10 year service in January the car boke down after only about 1500 miles.
The problem looks to have been with the crankhaft pulley bolt working it's way loose. As a result the cambelt cme off and has trashed the cover.
Is this bolt failing a common feature at all, and should it have been replaced in a 10 year service (or head gasket repair) ?
Once the wheel was removed & cover it was found to be exactly like this, with the bolt having come out completely :-
Thanks
Alan
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mgtfnut
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by mgtfnut » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:25 pm
Gasps of amazement
I wouldn't worry about the plastic bits, I'm more worried about what happened with the valve gear/pistons.
It must have made a hell of a din with the belt sawing through the plastic cover before bursting out - please tell me the engine cut out without catastrophic mechanical noises
These bolts have a high torque value, and I've never heard of one coming undone. It surely must be faulty workmanship, probably resulting in a new engine, as if mechanical damage has ensued, it might well be major.
Jerry
MG TF 135 - 101k
Suzuki SJ 413 - 309k
Skoda Yeti SE 110 4x4 - 138k
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Dieter K
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by Dieter K » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:52 pm
Would aggree. They usually come off only after some suspect service works.
Obviously someone did not meet the asked for torque of 205 Nm.
http://www.mgfcar.de/library/more.htmMGF 1.8i, PTS. HEF-MG96
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a666one
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by a666one » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:34 pm
SAS Autos
http://www.sasautosltd.co.uk/ said it's not covered after 11 months and only 1500 miles. They have seen it 2 or 3 times before and that something in the photo looks worn that has probably started the problem off. They then quoted £200 to £300 to fix !!!
1 broken car could be appearing on ebay soon....but only after the Daytona, Taipan, Roll hoops, bass box etc have been transferred over to the wifes TF.
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bgunn
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by bgunn » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:37 pm
It fell off because they didn't tighten the bolt fully, end of.
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Geoff.F
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by Geoff.F » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:25 pm
I would take one of a number of options. First would be to talk to the AA for an Engineers Report. Talk to Trading Standards who may have other Reports.
How stubborn are you. I would probably take the car to a recommended Specialist and pay them to fix it plus a summary of work and go to the Small Claims Court.
A local Specialist would be Techspeed at Eathorpe Leamington Spa. They are highly respected by a number of Register Members for their experience and reasonable Man-Hour rates. Ask Gaven for his experience with this sort of failure.
Geoff F.
