evening all, first of many questions as I chase the various faults on my car, which is a 1996 VVC.
My flash function on the column stalk switch doesn't work. The lighting & indicators all work as they should, all I'm missing is the momentary flash as you pull the switch towards you.
I pulled the column shroud off today to have a look, nothing seems amiss in there. Am I right in thinking that the steering wheel needs to come off to remove the column stalks? Are these switch's prone to failure, or is there a known fault elsewhere in the system that I should maybe investigate?
Thanks in advance, Taff
Flasher switch?
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Re: Flasher switch?
It is proberbly a burt out contact in the stalk.
The wheel isn't hard to remove.
Battery off for 10 minutes to discharge airbag.
2 x T30 torx bolts on back.
Pop air bag off and unplug.
1 x 19mm bolt (same size as road wheel brace).
IIRC it's 4 screws for the rotary coupler (be careful not rotate it).
You can now get to the stalks.
It might be worth unplugging the stalk and trying it on the replacment before removing the steering wheel.
It might be worth considering the Rover 800 stalk upgrade while it is in bits.
The wheel isn't hard to remove.
Battery off for 10 minutes to discharge airbag.
2 x T30 torx bolts on back.
Pop air bag off and unplug.
1 x 19mm bolt (same size as road wheel brace).
IIRC it's 4 screws for the rotary coupler (be careful not rotate it).
You can now get to the stalks.
It might be worth unplugging the stalk and trying it on the replacment before removing the steering wheel.
It might be worth considering the Rover 800 stalk upgrade while it is in bits.
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Re: Flasher switch?
thanks, I'll try that, my wheel is slightly off centre, so I might whip it off anyway, and refit it straight. After doing the steer check, 'natch
Re: Flasher switch?
well, it wasn't that :-\
the replacement (used) stalk was waiting for me when I got home, following your suggestion I switched over the plugs without unbolting anything and I still don't have a flash.
Oh well, time to chase down a wiring fault. Does anyone know if, when you operate the flash, both dip & main come on? or is it just main?
cheers, Taff
p.s. for sale, MGF indiactor stalk...
the replacement (used) stalk was waiting for me when I got home, following your suggestion I switched over the plugs without unbolting anything and I still don't have a flash.
Oh well, time to chase down a wiring fault. Does anyone know if, when you operate the flash, both dip & main come on? or is it just main?
cheers, Taff
p.s. for sale, MGF indiactor stalk...
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Re: Flasher switch?
Frustrating - I think it is only the main beam.
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Re: Flasher switch?
I've found this:-
http://www.mgfcar.de/schedules/lights.htm
which explains how they work at the lights but not the wiring of the stalk switch itself.
Ho-hum, trial and error time
http://www.mgfcar.de/schedules/lights.htm
which explains how they work at the lights but not the wiring of the stalk switch itself.
Ho-hum, trial and error time
Re: Flasher switch?
Hi
Looking at the electrical diagram for the F the "flash" function is entirely controlled from within the indicator stalk!
If the main beam switching works correctly, then the flash function must also work, unless the switch is faulty!!!
With the headlights ON, if you pull the stalk all the way forward until the "switch" clicks does the main beam come ON?
If it does, then the only issue can be with the stalk switch!!! Even a bad connection to the stalk will not cause the "flash" function not to work!
Peter
Looking at the electrical diagram for the F the "flash" function is entirely controlled from within the indicator stalk!
If the main beam switching works correctly, then the flash function must also work, unless the switch is faulty!!!
With the headlights ON, if you pull the stalk all the way forward until the "switch" clicks does the main beam come ON?
If it does, then the only issue can be with the stalk switch!!! Even a bad connection to the stalk will not cause the "flash" function not to work!
Peter
Re: Flasher switch?
Hi Peter.
I arrived at that conclusion as well! You have cheered me up no end
If I switch my dip beams on, and then operate the stalk, it passes through the "flash" position with nothing happening, until it reaches the positive "click" which turns on the main beam.
I've sat in the car with the switch/stalk wired up and tested the leads with the voltmeter, and it all checks out.
I think my switch is faulty, and the used replacement is also faulty.
Anyone got a known-good switch I can borrow?
I arrived at that conclusion as well! You have cheered me up no end
If I switch my dip beams on, and then operate the stalk, it passes through the "flash" position with nothing happening, until it reaches the positive "click" which turns on the main beam.
I've sat in the car with the switch/stalk wired up and tested the leads with the voltmeter, and it all checks out.
I think my switch is faulty, and the used replacement is also faulty.
Anyone got a known-good switch I can borrow?