Hose connector not on the spares diagrams

[Fraser]

During an inspection, a leak was found at a hose connector, (photo attached). The small diameter port connects to the long small diameter bleed hose that runs back across the top rear of the engine bay to the header tank. The garage have tried to glue it to stop the leak, but have told me they would advise replacing it. They contacted MGOC spares, and Rimmers, but there is no record of this part in the spares listing and diagrams.

Has anybody else had this part fail and what was their solution ! The garage also told me they could get it reproduced in metal, (my preference), but delivery time would be fairly lengthy as the chap who does little jobs like this is not known for urgency !

Why oh why can't the car manufacturers make things from metal rather than plastic which becomes more and more brittle as time goes by !!

Car is a very late MG TF registered Jan 2010, so made by MG Motor.

[talkingcars]

I have replaced similar fittings with metal ones sourced from ebay.

On my maestro T16 turbo I even replaced hoses with copper pipe with rubber couplings to avoid stress fractures.

[Fraser]

What do you recommend I enter to search ? Something like MG TF heater hose connector ?

[Geoff.F]

Try MG Motors Dealerships.
Geoff F

[talkingcars]

What do you recommend I enter to search ? Something like MG TF heater hose connector ?

No, one has to think outside the box, try something like brass pipe connector.

[mgtfnut]

MG TF Hose connector (heater connection).jpgDuring an inspection, a leak was found at a hose connector, (photo attached). The small diameter port connects to the long small diameter bleed hose that runs back across the top rear of the engine bay to the header tank. The garage have tried to glue it to stop the leak, but have told me they would advise replacing it. They contacted MGOC spares, and Rimmers, but there is no record of this part in the spares listing and diagrams.

Has anybody else had this part fail and what was their solution ! The garage also told me they could get it reproduced in metal, (my preference), but delivery time would be fairly lengthy as the chap who does little jobs like this is not known for urgency !

Why oh why can't the car manufacturers make things from metal rather than plastic which becomes more and more brittle as time goes by !!

Car is a very late MG TF registered Jan 2010, so made by MG Motor.

I think I may have one.
Back in your post about heater problems, I asked about a X piece from memory. It was a T piece

I don't need it, but I'll have to delve into the inner recesses of my shed spares storage facility to see if I can find it and if it is the part you need.
I think your heater woes may be because of the heater flow arrangements involving this connecter. I think you'll find it is glass fibre reinforced resin, which is pretty strong for it's intended purpose.

I'll go out now and have a look.

[mgtfnut]

Hmmm. Just located it and it looks very similar, except it is 4 legged. My memory was correct, but your's, it seems, to be a different part

It has 3 x 16mm stubs, and 1 x 8mm.

As said above, a metal substitute might be easier to source/ made up, or cut the cracked bit off and make up a screwed metal tube with olive tapped into the plastic. It's not just any old plastic, but developed for coolant systems and in general OEM automotive use for a long time. They are pretty strong and must have had some force to crack it.
It's yours if you want it - perhaps blank off one of the legs if it is suitable?

[Fraser]

Hmmm. Just located it and it looks very similar, except it is 4 legged. My memory was correct, but your's, it seems, to be a different part

It has 3 x 16mm stubs, and 1 x 8mm.

As said above, a metal substitute might be easier to source/ made up, or cut the cracked bit off and make up a screwed metal tube with olive tapped into the plastic. It's not just any old plastic, but developed for coolant systems and in general OEM automotive use for a long time. They are pretty strong and must have had some force to crack it.
It's yours if you want it - perhaps blank off one of the legs if it is suitable?

Many thanks, but I have now finally found the part on line ! It comes into the "hens teeth" category. I have ordered one from Endon Services, and today will try to find out if/when it will be delivered. The part is PER000150

[mgtfnut]

Good result.
This part of TF cooling systems seems to have some variations - I'm guessing the bit I have is for the oil/water intercooler version?
Anyway, it goes back into my spares facility (shed) if ever needed

With the engine cover off, it's worth checking the temperature of the hoses with your hands to see if you can find where the hoses loose heat?

[Fraser]

The guys at the garage have had a part made up to fit. This uses a gas pipe T-piece with suitable size brass connectors screwed in each port. I inspected the installation just after 17.00 and all is well. The only thing is that the new connector is much heavier than the plastic one, so they are going to tie one of the pipes up to stop the thing wobbling around. It could have been this that caused the original failure. The part is very badly designed as the connector for the small bore pipe has a groove all the way round tht significantly weakens it, A failure waiting to happen ! Having said that, I suppose it has lasted 10 years !

[Fraser]

Just a final report on this.....
The part number for this connector is PER000150 and I obtained it from Endon Services Limited based in Stok-on-Trent. I had ordered it before the garage came back with their proposed metal part. It appears that the spares drawings and listings were never updated to show this part, which is fitted to late TFs, I suspect only those made by MG Motor.

Anyway, I'm going to keep it in the garage until the metal part they have fitted is proven.

[Rob Bell]

great update, thanks Fraser